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  Reveal- Trey Bundy: New documents about Jehovah’s Witnesses’ sex abuse begin to leak out

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  new jehovah's witnesses document dump provides a grim play-by-play of how the religion deals with sexual abuse.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/new-documents-about-jehovahs-witnesses-sex-abuse-begin-to-leak-out/.

  by trey bundy / january 10, 2018 .

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  John Davis

  Flipper:

  If you feel that there should be laws that keep convicted pedophiles away from all children then you need to not speak on here you need to write your law makers to make laws like that, but you cannot expect people to enforce a nonexistent law. Even now there are people who date and marry known pedophiles and some of these people have children prior to them forming these relationships. And yes there are some professions where convicted child molesters are not allowed to work in even if an employer is willing to hire them, but those types of professions are few. And certainly one of those professions is not being a door to door solicitor, residential installer or other professions that puts a person in the home of someone else even if they are children in the home. If you order cable do you ask the cable company if their installer that they are sending you has ever been accused of child molestation or when you call for a plumber do you do a full criminal background check on the person in order to ensure he hasn’t been arrested for a sex offense.

  And yes I agree my thoughts on the fact that the court was made aware of the abuse during the restraining order is just speculation but it is educated on the facts of how to get a restraining order in Massachusetts. To get a permanent restraining order you have to show good cause and if someone wants to show good cause what better information to present to the court than the accusation of child molestation against you by that person.
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  Reveal- Trey Bundy: New documents about Jehovah’s Witnesses’ sex abuse begin to leak out

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  new jehovah's witnesses document dump provides a grim play-by-play of how the religion deals with sexual abuse.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/new-documents-about-jehovahs-witnesses-sex-abuse-begin-to-leak-out/.

  by trey bundy / january 10, 2018 .

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  John Davis

  There is a problem though when people just dump documents with no context or research behind the posting of these kinds of documents.

  First, there are questions related to privacy that both the victims and third parties and even the suspected perpetrator has. Even though the names have been redacted it is easy for people to surmise who these people are and can cause additional emotional pain and distress for all those parties. Look at the ARC they only released the documents that were part of one case because they had communicated with the harmed woman, she gave them testimony and I would assume they communicated with her before releasing those documents. This would grant the victim an opportunity to decide if they want people to know the story or not. And yes even the accused perpetrator has rights not for certain information to be let out that he doesn’t want out or that is not put out through legal means.

  Second, these documents have not been authenticated nor is it possible to know if these are all of the documents or contains all the facts known by all the parties. In court a lawyer cannot just introduce documents into evidence no matter how accurate or damning they maybe. Evidence can only be introduced after it is presented to witnesses for that information to be authenticated and for context to be given. Even in this case there is no documents as to communication with the legal department which would be the department that would give legal advice on if and when communication needs to be reported to the authorities.

  Third, I understand that people have a problem with the fact that he was reinstated and allowed to go door to door, but that is his right to practice his religion. Just because someone has committed a vial act doesn’t mean that they have given up their rights as a human. Yes, he may reoffend in the future but we as a society don’t punish people for future crimes, we can only punish people for things that they have actually committed.

  Fourth, is this thought that the authorities were never notified when it is certainly possible for one to surmise that authorities were notified. In the documents it speaks to a restraining order that was granted to one of the victims against the perpetrator. In order to receive a restraining order from a judge the victim of the abuse would need to explain to why that person is in potential harm and that the court would be required to curtail another person’s rights. The victim would have to explain what happened to her and why she feels that her father is still a danger to herself and her husband. Also it is impractical for anyone to expect a private organization to enforce a restraining order, it is up to the person who has the restraining order along with the police to enforce it, not for other people too.

  I know I am going to take a lot of flak for my thoughts and certainly this should have been handled better by Watchtower, but it is also looking at the different sides of this matter.
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  San Diego: Osbaldo Padron v Watchtower

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/apr/24/ticker-tough-build-jehovahs-witness-sex-abuse-case.

  tough to build jehovah's witness sex-abuse case.

  11. without documents, says plaintiff, he can’t get justice.

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  John Davis

  The court of appeals has issued the remittitur today in this case. That is the official paperwork to send the case back down to the lower trial court.
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  What Will The Future Hold For Jehovah's Witnesses

  by VW.org in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as descibed by the title here is a link to reddit of a what i believe is a powerful post with heaps of information.

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  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7ovq5o/watchtowers_decline_what_will_the_future_hold_for/?utm_source=reddit-android.

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  John Davis

  ToesUp: Probably a lot. But how many have actually been lost by Watchtower around the world. Probably none or very very few of them.
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  2018 Conventions

  by LogansRun in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did they release the 2018 district convention dates and cities yet, i checked the jw website and it only mentions windsor ca for the region of the usa i was curious about.

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  John Davis

  Some dates and locations are up but not all as of yet. They probably won't put all up until a week or two. That will just make sure that congregations have had their official announcements before it is posted on jw.org
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  George Lucas tinkering with Star Wars films

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  just thought i'd start a thread about lucas revisiting star wars films and making new edits - for better or for worse.. first off, let me say that george lucas has a tremendous imagination and star wars (1977), also known as episode 4: a new hope, and the empire strikes back (1980) - episode 5 in the franchise - are two of my favourite films.

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  as progress has been made in special effects, including the development of cgi, it makes sense for lucas to go back and retouch the spaceships, laser blasts and light sabres, improving what was 70s and 80s effects.. but i feel that lucas' tinkering has been a mixed bag - some have been bad choices, some unnecessary and others have been good.. what do you think ... .

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  John Davis

  Doesn't Disney own the franchise now and Lucas as no dealings with the company or the properties anymore?
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  My father also molested my DAUGHTER!

  by alamb in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  needing advise.

  i was on here years ago fighting for custody of my daughters.

  the court gave us a joint arrangement.

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  John Davis

  Utah law is actually very fascinating. In the civil statute, it says that a civil action can be brought upon someone that negligently permitted the sexual abuse to occur. Though with two very important caveats.

  1st it says that it has to be a living person. Which means that I don't think you could even sue an organization as that organization is a living person.

  2nd that for the person to qualify to engage negligently it requires that the person knows or would have known that the abuse is occurring but it doesn't mean that everyone can be apart of this class. The law states the relations to the child that the person has to be in order for them to be negligent. It requires that they be related in specific ways or that person has to cohabitate with the child when the abuse occurs.
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  My father also molested my DAUGHTER!

  by alamb in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  needing advise.

  i was on here years ago fighting for custody of my daughters.

  the court gave us a joint arrangement.

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  John Davis

  Also, Zalkin is correct if the abuse doesn't occur on Watchtower property or during a watchtower event the likelihood of winning against Watchtower is very slim to none.
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  My father also molested my DAUGHTER!

  by alamb in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  needing advise.

  i was on here years ago fighting for custody of my daughters.

  the court gave us a joint arrangement.

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  John Davis

  For a civil matter. You wouldn't be able to sue anyone since your daughter is of age. Your daughter is the only one that can file a civil matter.

  In the state of Utah it was changed in 2016. 78B-2-308 is the law that would cover this matter for civil matters.

  Section 3 covers both the perpetrator and anyone who may have contributed to the abuse directly.

  subsection a. sets for no time limit to file a civil suit against the perpetrator.

  subsection b. sets a time limit of 4 years against someone who directly aided in the abuse. The time starts to run when the victim turns 18 or when the person first recognizes that the abuse has caused harm.
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  New Letter: Announcements and Reminders

  by Brian J in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  letter dated 1/1/2018.

  i know they are trying to simplify but it all is such a confusing mess.... forms, dates, calculators, committees, logins, publisher record cards.....jesus would barf.

  to all bodies of elders re: announcements and reminders dear brothers: in an effort to reduce the number of letters sent to all bodies of elders and congregations, most announcements from the branch office will now be conveyed to congregations by means of the announcements and reminders (s-147) form.

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  it is the same number of announcements and information. It is just reducing the number fo times that it gets transmitted to each congregation.